The Golden Era of Arab Atheism?

It is unlikely that Western media will take note, but there seems to be a rejuvenation of Arab atheism. Western media never take note of Arab intellectual trends, especially if they deviate from the classical conventional assumptions about the Theologocentric (as Maxime Rodinson called it in his La Fascination de l’Islam) impulses of all Arabs and all Muslims.

Secular trends in the Arab world have been long ignored in Western media and even scholarship. Furthermore, Saudi and Qatari media, which dominate the bulk of pan-Arab media, will certainly suppress such news, but there is a new phenomenon. Arab atheist groups are spreading on the Internet and Facebook groups dedicated to Arab atheists are increasing in popularity. And the Egyptian newspaper al-Wafd even took note and published an article about “the secret world” of atheists. There are reasons for this phenomenon.

To be sure, Arab atheism is not new: There is a long history of free-thinking in Arab countries throughout Islamic history. Long before the appearance in the late 1990s of Sarah Stroumsa’s fine book, Freethinkers of Medieval Islam: Ibn al-Rawandi, Abu Bakr al-Razi and their Impact on Islamic Thought, Arabs and Muslims were curious to learn about the history of atheists and free-thinkers in Islamic history.

The brilliant Egyptian historian of philosophy, Abdul-Rahman Badawi, wrote his Min Tarikh al-Ihlad fi-l-Islam in the early 1940s. The book has remained in print ever since and a free PDF copy of the book is now available on numerous websites for download (those who prepared the oft-cited Arab Development Report did not know that most young Arabs get their books and music for free on the Internet, or even through borrowing).

The free-thinkers of Islam have received academic and popular attention in the 20th century. A professor at Baghdad University, Abd al-Amir al-Asam, devoted years to the study of Ibn al-Rawandi. People like al-Razi and especially al-Hallaj are quite popular in the literary and even mass imagination. And if Arab communists and atheists have received a severe blow after the Iranian revolution and after the demise of the Soviet Union, there are signs that the Arab uprisings and the ascension of power of Islamists in several Arab countries may have begun to inaugurate a new political and intellectual era: the (second) era of modern Arab atheism.

This would not be the only era of Arab atheism (and by era, one only denotes a period in which atheist intellectual and even communist – as was the case in the early history of the Iraqi Communist Party – made their appearance). Early in the 20th century, there were cases in which Arabs made the case for atheism: Ismail Madhdhar, the Egyptian writer, wrote in 1930s a treatise titled “Why am I an Atheist.” (There was a recent attempt by a writer in the Lebanese right-wing newspaper, an-Nahar, to mimic or even plagiarize Madhdhar, but the second attempt was comical and vulgar). There was a climate in which atheists could make their cases and the rise of secular movement in the Arab East made that possible. (Mahdhdar later recanted his early stance).

The era of the Arab uprising has just begun and it is likely to introduce new philosophical trends into the Arab world. Those trends can now be observed in Arab social media. Western media, for example, have not noticed the rediscovery of Nasser by a new generation of Arabs. It was lost on Western media that Hamdeen Sabbahi, the third-ranked candidate in the Egyptian presidential election, is a staunch Nasserist. Furthermore, there are atheist communists who played important political roles in the uprisings of Tunisia and Egypt (in Syria, those communists suffered early imprisonment and repression by the regime, which prefers to face Islamists of the various kinds). And those atheists are making their voices heard: The new leftists and communists, and secularists in general, are far more brave and daring than the discredited class of orthodox Stalinist Marxists who — under strict orders from Moscow — did not wish to challenge religious authorities and did not wish to spread atheist beliefs.

The brief rule of Ikhwan in Tunisia and Egypt, and the public manifestations of Salafi groups in many Arab countries, has had the reverse effect: Many young Arabs are being turned off from religion altogether. It is significant that a young woman in Tunisia yesterday attempted to expose her breasts in front of a popular mosque to protest a Salafi gathering. Nude protests have also been registered in Egypt, and despite the superficial nature of such protests and their gimmicky quality, they represent a new daring trend that does not shy away from offending religion.

I wrote a brief observation yesterday on Facebook that the rule of the Islamists seems to guarantee turning whole Arab populations towards atheism, and an Egyptian activist responded by saying that: “There is widespread popular disgust with religious people and even bearded people. There is also a rise in the demand for secular and communist books by young people. And it is noteworthy that peasants in my village all categorically agree to not vote for any bearded man or any religious man, and say that their roles should be confined to the mosques…And an Internet site for Arab atheists announced that some 347 Egyptians have joined the group in one week only of last month.” There are similar reports in Iran that atheism is a form of protest.

This could be a turning point in the intellectual and political history of the region. It, however, has to contend with the culture of religion imposed on it by Saudi Arabia and Qatar, which insists on the exclusive domination of a very strict brand of religion over people’s political and social lives. The battle by Arab atheists won’t be easy, but it has just begun. The corruption, repression, and hypocrisy of the rule of Islamists seem to strengthen Arab atheism more than any other factor.

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Isn't that supposed to be al-ilhad rather than al-ihlad?

Atheist activist since 1968, looking for affinity persons or groups from the muslim world.

To exchange experiences. To coordinate action of solidarity and protest, etc.

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My nick: ABERINGI.

Thanks!!!!

Interesting article and discussion following! Not sure how to take any of it since as a Canadian I am far removed from the situation. I can only say that atheism, unlike any religion, is not rooted in one place. Wherever you find religion, you will find atheism. The idea of it being a Western phenomenon is absurd, there were atheists in Greece and many other places long before anyone educated enough to come to this perspective lived in North America. All that is required to be an atheist is to not believe in that which has no evidence. All sorts of people all over the world have come to this conclusion independently, this is something no religion can say for itself. I believe there must be an element of truth to what this article says. Whether or not the extreme religious climate this atheism finds itself in will allow more than painfully slow progression towards a fair and equal society I don't know. I applaud those who work towards this end though and I think the internet can do a lot to connect people in less progressive places to the masses in the rest of the world that are rooting for you and your cause. My heart and support go out to the atheists, women, homosexuals and anyone else living in a part of the world where their oppression is standard. There may be bumps in the road, but man has been moving steadily in one direction since the dawn of our existence and we will continue to do so despite the efforts of many who cling to the past.

It's not just Arab atheists. To a large extent, Iranian Atheism is spreading like wildfire. Farsi atheist groups have increased substancially in the last few years. Although, it does not really matter, where free-thinkers come from. I sallute my Arab atheist brothers and sisters. Good luck to us all.

Middle east with a weakend Islam would be a glorious place to live. We have so much potential. The sooner the west realize that the better.

If you think atheism is the ticket to gaining the acceptance and approval of your beloved western idol, you're in for some disappointment.

I don't agree. I would love to spend time with a non religious arabian. Not a minute with a believer of any flavour. I like originality.

So why say "the sooner the west realize that, the better"? It's because you believe that the west will finally accept you and love you and shower you with their grace as soon as you forsake religion. Like I said, you're in for a bitter disappointment with that theory. Inferiority complexes can be cured though.

"It is unlikely that Western media will take note, but there seems to be a rejuvenation of Arab atheism. Western media never take note of Arab intellectual trends."

Hopefully that will change. Your article for instance is featured on Richard Dawkins's website:
http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/6/11/the-golden-era-of-...

As for this webpage, it's a pity that so many of the comments are either barely relevant or nasty, because this is a fascinating and under-explored topic. A precursor of atheistic thought can be found in the Dahrīs, but even in Western Europe there were no major expressions of outright atheism until Baron D'Holbach began secretly published his tracts in the 1760s--advances in science and a greater ease of sharing information (the printing press and now the internet) hastened the spread of atheology. Sectarian warfare has also encouraged atheism, but atheists and freethinkers will always live in fear unless they are in a society that extends religious freedom to all. Though the situation is bleak in many parts of the middle east, at least atheists can find strength on the internet.

They all err, Muslims, Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians,
Humanity follows two world-wide sects,
The first, man intelligent without religion
The second, religious without intellect.

Abu 'L'Ala Ahmad ibn 'Abdallah al-Ma'arri, C975-1058

Had they been left alone with reason,

they would not have accepted a spoken lie;

but the whips were raised to strike them.

Traditions were brought to them,

and they were ordered to say,

"We have been told the truth";

If they refused, the sword was drenched with their blood.

They were terrified by scabbards of calamities,

and tempted by great bowls of food,

Offered in a lofty and condescending manner.

Al-Ma'arri

(...)

This article is about Arab atheism, and refers it to the long history of free-thinking in Arab countries, but those free-thinkers in the article were not Arab. Abu bakr Razi (born in Rey - Iran), Rawandi (born in Rawand (Kashan) - Iran) and Hallaj (born in Fars Province of Iran) were Persian, and were born in Persia. Hallaj's grandfather was Zoroastrian! What a poor article! If someone writes in Arabic, does it mean he or she is Arab?

I can't repeat the first reaction enough. This article is full of naivism to a dangerous extent.

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An outrageously ignorant, ideologically driven piece that is in complete denial of the realities in the Arab and Muslim world. Point, after point, the article chimerically invents 'atheism' as having a long-standing tradition in pax Islamica. I wonder if he ever bothered to consider that the entire scope of 'atheism' and its corresponding ethical, political and cultural mores is a European phenomenon in its origins. Were their 'disbelievers' in the Arab and Middle East, certainly, there were, yet to lump them together in this sloppy manner to foreign predicament is academically rubbish.

It is precisely these type of people that no longer understand or know their own societies. This is why they constantly get it wrong.
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There is no lumping together...

The article is merely a description of the current state of affairs in the region. Furthermore it's impossible to lump anyone under the banner "atheist." Either someone doesn't believe in God or they do. If they don't believe then they are an atheist.

The article is really quite tame. Where does this vitriol come from I wonder?

An outrageously ignorant, ideologically driven piece that is in complete denial of the realities in the Arab and Muslim world. Point, after point, the article chimerically invents 'atheism' as having a long-standing tradition in pax Islamica. I wonder if he ever bothered to consider that the entire scope of 'atheism' and its corresponding ethical, political and cultural mores is a European phenomenon in its origins. Were their 'disbelievers' in the Arab and Middle East, certainly, there were, yet to lump them together in this sloppy manner to foreign predicament is academically rubbish.

It is precisely these type of people that no longer understand or know their own societies. This is why they constantly get it wrong.

I would agree that this piece seems written by an individual with an agenda, probably that of promoting atheism. I would disagree however that he is inventing atheism in Arab culture and that it is a European phenomenon. Atheism is a direct result of education and the ability of free thought within a culture, this is statistically proven in any study you care to read. There is a history of atheism in Arab countries which has been suppressed now by ridiculous theocracies, but probably not as endemic as the author suggests, however, we must remember the seat of learning that the area was, before the Christian crusades encouraged a rallying cry behind the banner of Islam, the knock on effects of which, in a much bastardised form, can be felt now during this time of Islamic "crusades".

Atheism does not have political nor cultural mores, so why would they be considered? Don't lump all disbelievers into the same category or you'll be getting it completely wrong...

from the Angry Arab Blog

"Fatima from Algeria, sent me this response regarding a post from yesterday about Algerian media and sympatnhy for Hizbullah: " hi assad . i noticed one of your readers Ahmed was asking why Algerians were not sectarian , you can tell him because AL Saoud Media does not control algerian media and our clerics are independent from wahabi clerics and never ever insult , mock or say anything negative about Shias . ALL algerian clerics support the unity of ALL Muslims and that s why we are proud of them . best regards . "

The algerian corrupt francophone military Government is only in power because of it`s ruthless policy against it`s own population. All there paid cooks are nothing more than spokesperson for the regime. They managed to kill about 150000 Algerians after the Islamist party won the election in 1992. they are in deep trouble. Because the State is on collapse mode and Assad quoting this DRS (...) Fatima for praising the State clergy.

"Western and arabic media never reported about the two shiite towns near A'zaz (with a combined population count of 30000 inhabitants similar to Qusayr) who have been under siege for close to a year now (as of july 2012) by the Free Syrian Army, with all the regular artillery shelling, incursions and kidnappings..."

And when you scumbag ever talk about the sectarianism of Maliki, Iran or the syrian Regime. This is a trick he always uses. Ok. Azaz is under siege. And what has this to do with the bombing of Qusair? What has this to do with the dead 300000 syrians. You always smashed the Rebels argument that Hezbollah is involved in syria scumbag. And that the syrian regime don`t need help to fight against a few international Jihadist and Takfiris. But the Mahdy Army or Hezbollah or iranian shia fanatics are of course not jihadist or takfiris. They are all progressives fighting for gender equality and gay rights.Nice how use the War on Terror terminology. Nasrallah use this Terminology too.

Western and arabic media never reported about the two shiite towns near A'zaz (with a combined population count of 30000 inhabitants similar to Qusayr) who have been under siege for close to a year now (as of july 2012) by the Free Syrian Army, with all the regular artillery shelling, incursions and kidnappings...

Add that post to the thousand of lies posted or written by As'ad at his blog, Twitter, and writings, and he loves to ridicule others for their ignorance but affords himself all sort of lies, double standards, etc to maintain his sectarian loyalty and these Algerian media types were the biggest supporters of the French-backed Algerian generals. I counted four lies in that post.

sooner or later light will overcome darkness wherever it is.

Tell that to the dinosaurs.

The only modern Arab historian I've learned anything from is the late Said Aburish, who was in fact a Quaker, but preferred not to mention the fact in his writing. His political perspective was definitely Nasserist. He came from a Muslim Palestinian family, and, I would speculate, became a Quaker while undergoing postgraduate education in the USA, where he married an American woman. I don't think the marriage was successful, but there were several children who remained in the US and in the end did quite well there. In his fiction, Aburish suggests that he was involved with the CIA. Probably it's difficult not to be. However, his brother was in the PFLP-GC - an organisation that has never wavered from its Marxist foundation. Aburish lived in France for most of his later life: a good place not to get assassinated, once you have made enough money to ensure some privacy. I recommend his many books, which will strip away the blinkers from some eyes. Among his major points is that the Muslim Brotherhood, having been essentially a British instrument in the earlier 20th century, became a CIA instrument thereafter. The British and the Americans between them must have tried to kill Nasser about 40 times, either directly or via the MB. This should, I hope suggest something to you about the real nature of Arab religiosity (despite Abu Omar's continuous attempts to suggest that everything is the other way round, which is standard Wahhabi/Salafi propaganda).

" I hope suggest something to you about the real nature of Arab religiosity (despite Abu Omar's continuous attempts to suggest that everything is the other way round, which is standard Wahhabi/Salafi propaganda)."

You should audition for Ad-Dunya with your propensity for lying and tashbeeh, they could use a sycophantic Ajami ignoramus like yourself. To say that Arab religiosity and specifically among Arab Sunnis and Sunni Islamists, didn't play any role in resistance to Western imperialism in the last 100 years, is a brazen lie, and the presence of many traitors among them, something which I don't deny like the hypocrites of the Iran-Syria axis, doesn't detract from the fact that these traitors were condemned and confronted by their fellow Sunnis, who did not let their sectarian commonality and ties preventing them from oppose their treachery unlike Hezbollah and the Iranian regime who were totally silent on their thuwar Nato. This isn't " standard Wahhabi/Salafi propaganda" but facts on the ground, much as you may dislike it because it doesn't jibe with you and As'ad's lying propaganda. The tens of thousands of Salafis in Saudi in Saudi dungeons since Gulf War I, who opposed the treachery of the Saudi regime and its puppet ulama are "traitors" according to a charlatan like yourself.

wow, Abu Umar, you've come a long way. Your english has really improved over the last two years. I remember the mistakes you used to make. You still do, but teh vocabulary and the sentence has much-ly improved :)
What happened to the refrain "rode to power on American tanks"

Look what I found for you. Go to minute 1:20 of this video and tell me who the eloquent and pragmatic Shekh Zwahiri reminds you of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nue-Qew0A0

"wow, Abu Umar, you've come a long way. Your english has really improved over the last two years. I remember the mistakes you used to make. You still do, but teh vocabulary and the sentence has much-ly improved :)
What happened to the refrain "rode to power on American tanks"

Keep snickering "Sister" Hezbeleb:

http://english.al-akhbar.com/blogs/angry-corner/car-bomb-beirut-wissam-a...

"Dear sister (I hope I could call you thus)"

I don't need grammar lessons from a clown who accused me of being Maghrebi when I'm a Shami Arab. You should bake yourself cat and dog manakeesh as per Abdul-Amir Qabalan mockingly advised the Palestinians in Harb al-Mukhayyamat, so much for the Palestinian card used by the Iran-Syria axis, it is thrown out the window when it conflicts with their agendas.

Look what I found for you:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16152064
http://www.defense.gov/home/photoessays/2005-04/p20050412c2.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNQhMUOy__s
http://www.aljazeera.com/focus/iraqelection2010/2010/03/2010356204641991...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIq4n7-jQsM

your Iraqi Shi'ite buddies smiling and laughing with the Americans like Bush, Rumsfeld, Bremer, Wolfowitz, etc and riding their tanks into power, while they make takfeer of Abu Bakr and Umar proving through their actions and words that they favour the Americans over Abu Bakr and Umar. Even Bush and the Judeofascist Wolfowitz are better than Abu Bakr and Umar according to these Shi'ites,the so-called madhab of Ahl al-Bayt.

Can you answer without snickering, tashbeeh, and evasiveness, why Iran and Hezbollah didn't utter a single word against their allies in Afghanistan and Iraq who collaborated with the West, while they have made takhween of all of the Syrian opposition from day one?T he West didn't give a fraction towards the Syrian opposition, what it gave towards Iran's thuwar Nato, and the West considers many of the Syrian opposition fighters their enemies, and yet they are still considered "Zionist" traitors by the sycophants of the Iran-Syria axis. Of course, you can't because you are an extreme sectarian like the the majority of Lebanese Shi'ites, whose ta'assub, "yu'ash'ish fi 'urookiqum" and "sharib at-ta'assub min haleeb ummu" prevented them from uttering a single word towards their own thuwar Nato just like the other sectarian Shi'ites. You can't "khawin al-akhdar wal-yaabis" and slither away from this brazen hypocrisy.

Asad is no different than the right-wing Jews who preach assimilation and secularism towards Arabs and Muslims, but would never do the same thing towards the Ultra-Orthodox and religious settler Jews, precisely to safeguard their sectarian and tribal loyalties, and Amal and Hezbollah would never tolerate Asad preaching what he calls for on the ground and he knows this.

Asad, are you going to usher in this "golden era of Arab atheism" by preaching it amongst your people, the Lebanese Shi'ite and engaging in an ideological and creedal conflict with Amal and Hezbollah, holding atheist conferences, supporting gay "rights" and gay pride parades, etc, in Dahiyeh, Hermel, Baalbek, Sur, Nabatiyeh, Bint Jbail and your hometown Qulailah or are you and Ibrahim al-Amin hypocritically preaching what you don't practise amongst your people and engaging in anti-Sunni sectarianism? Clearly, the Syrian uprising has exposed your anti-Sunni bias and your Shi'ite sectarianism and loyalties and there is no way that Amal and Hezbollah or even more moderate Lebanese Shi'ites would tolerate your atheist and pro-gay agitation.

you have no idea what you are talking about. do you ?

firstly i am astonished that Hezbollah and (shiaa) are being mentioned at all in an article talking about secularism and atheism in the arab world.
religious groups from all sects and groups in lebanon wouldn't be very happy with anyone of any political background preaching atheism, that is a given.

second, you know what , why bother, enjoy your self man. no one's listening anyway.....

I know precisely what I'm talking about and this article and many of As'ad's writings reveal his Shi'ite sectarian loyalty and biases, hypocritically preaching for atheism, gay rights, etc. in Arab Sunni countries, when he and Ibrahim al-Amin won't dare practise this amongst their own people, knowing full well that Amal and Hezbollah would never tolerate this, nor did I see any articles in Al-Akhbar supporting the Iranian leftists who oppose the Iranian regime.

"second, you know what , why bother, enjoy your self man. no one's listening anyway....."

Snickering and slithering, thats what you charlatans of the Iran-Syrian axis specialise in, especially when the treachery of Iran and Hezbollah's allies are mentioned and the deafening silence from Hezbollah and Iran towards, where Hamas is considered more treacherous than Iran's own thuwar Nato..

You have nailed it my friend. He just recently showed a picture of hanged Yemenites in Saudi Arabia while never show pictures of hanged Ahwaz Arabs in Iran for example. Someone have to analyze his Blog and decode his tactics. One of his main pillars is of course Double Standards. It`s really impressive how he talks about the oppression of Kurds in turkey while willfully ignoring "NATO" Kurds in Iraq or the kurds living in Iran.

I'm cynical.
I don't see Arab atheists making much of an impact now.
The great secular thinkers of the Arab golden age didn't manage to change the way of thought in any significant way.
I doubt atheist movements will be able to have much of an impact in this era of ignorance and fundamentalism.
Islam is way too powerful and imposing at the moment.
Just look at the Arab immigrants in the west, the majority still cling onto their religions despite living in an enlightened and free society.

"Just look at the Arab immigrants in the west, the majority still cling onto their religions despite living in an enlightened and free society."

Racists are too easy to spot nowadays. It's so pathetic how you can't mask it well either

Calling people 'racists' when talking about religion is typical and is another reason it puts people right off it.

"Calling people 'racists' when talking about religion is typical and is another reason it puts people right off it."

He's not racist for talking about religion... He's racist for thinking that Arabs people are intellectually inferior and less civilized than white people because they may practice a certain religion. I know orientalist your dogma can be blinding, but try a little harder.

It's not a racism issue. The faithful comes in all colours. Being an anti-theist means you hate what religion does to the believer, the society it pollutes and by knock on effect, the people that the faithful choose to affect with their deeds. It's not hard to feel superior to ignorant people whose choose to willfully disbelieve all of science and intelligent thought so that they can have an imaginary friend in the sky. It's not right to feel superior to them, just really hard as an intelligent freethinker not to.

Ya that was a nice speech and all, but your ethnocentric understanding of "religion" reveals that you have no clue what you're talking about. Try harder ;) It must suck knowing those religious savages from the east lifted the europeans out of their own backwardness eh?

Dr. AbuKhalil, a correction seems necessary here. Rawandi & Razi were Persians.

You don't have to be a leftist to be atheist.

Interesting and heartening news. Society has a way of swinging to extremes, which in turn creates a backlash. Just because the Islamics appear to be on the ascent now does not mean that the Muslim world has to fall into fanatical medieval Islam. The Islamics are probably sowing their seeds of their own destruction.

What really turned me off of religion in the US was the extreme thinking of the religious right of people like GW Bush. Clerics and very religious people in general tend not to be the most intelligent and have a way of shooting themselves in the foot and turning people off. This holds true in the Middle East too.

Hey Asad, quit giving that standard "western" line about Stalin and stalinism, will you? Those "Arab communists" you talk of ( Bagdash et al.) have nothing to do with Stalinism. If they received any orders from Moscow, it was under Krushchov or Brejnev, that is after the Stalin era.
That was also when the sino-soviet split happened worldwide between communists. Post Stalin USSR took a right-wing line, probably counseled by those Arab "communists" for things relating to Arab countries. Stalin and Stalinism was about fighting (and defeating) the nazis, overthrowing capitalism and feudalism, modernising society and building socialism, not about compromising on religion. Communist books and publications of the period are full of this. Take a look!

I don't believe it is fair or appropriate to link free thinkers to atheism as done in this article. Islam provides a great platform for freedom. The problem is that we have now majority people who are below the standard and teachings of Islam and hence misinterpretation of text and politicising of Islam for personal agendas. The problem is not in Islam, it's in the people.

Islam provides as much chance of freedom as ten miles of chains and a locked steel box. Only when you are free of the shackles of any religion can you be classed a free-thinker. I'm sure you can have intelligence within faith, but there comes a time when you have to suspend that, as it will interfere with and start to disprove your faith.

Nope. Its not actually the raise in Atheism in Arab lands, its the Interenet propoganda is now much more widespread than, for example During the rule of Saddam or Hafiz Assad(May Allah curse his soul) when he slaughtered 60 000 and nobody knew.

Now media is widespread, and you have a few hundred atheist arabs or Shabiha who support Assad or some sick feminist Arabs in Tunisia who make a protest o 2000 people and media picks up the protest and makes it look like these protests are widespread and all over the Muslim lands.

If you actually go to Hajj during pilgramage and go live in Muslim lands, you will find only a small minority of People who dont belive in Creator of Heavens and the Earth.

Let alone to mention that Islam is on the rise and you have muslims in secular countries who have been allowing corruption,prostitution,alcohol and nakedness in Tunisia, Egypt,Syria,Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Russian lands who want SHARIAH,

Even Islam Kamirov had to attend a gathering of 50 000 protesting Muslims and apologize for mistakes,seeing that once you attack Islam, muslims will not stop even if you use Chemical Weapons.

So this article is as good as tuna flavoured cologne.Print it and use it for fireplace.

By the way I am not sorry for poor spelling, I am Not English Speaking and frankly, I do not respect a Language that was spread by the sword and colonisation and murder of hundreds of Millions.

Alhamdulilah

"I am Not English Speaking and frankly, I do not respect a Language that was spread by the sword and colonisation and murder of hundreds of Millions."

I suppose the spread of Arabic was nothing but a peaceful and pure divine intervention?

Why do you assume he speaks Arabic? He didn't only mention Arab countries in his post... You just couldn't resist that racist temptation could you?

Why are you assuming I assumed the writer was an Arabic speaker?
The writer closed with an Arabic phrase, (Which informed my response) but could be a speaker of any number of languages.
Your charge of racism is ridiculous. Why not throw in colonialist and imperialist as well? That way, you can have triple the righteous indignation?

I quote you saying "I suppose the spread of Arabic was nothing but a peaceful and pure divine intervention?"

Those were your words, not mine. Prejudice and racist orientalism drove you to make an irrelevant comment about the "spread of Arabic"... Because obviously, this man who held a certain view about the Muslim World (as well as his own disregard for the English), led you to believe that Arabic was his 1st language. Because naturally, that's what any anti-imperialist Muslim speaks according to you, right? And of course, in typical white privileged manner, you attempted to dodge the issue and victimize yourself. Sorry, but nice try ;)

Racist orientalism, too? White privilege? We are hitting all of the standards, aren't we? Forget the "victimize yourself" though, We don't do feeling victimised. Kind of self-defeating, you know what I'm saying?
Enjoy life in the rear view mirror! ;)

I knew you were white lmao

Well said brother. Asalaamu Alaikum

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