Excuse Me, But Israel Has No Right To Exist

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The phrase “right to exist” entered my consciousness in the 1990s just as the concept of the two-state solution became part of our collective lexicon. In any debate at university, when a Zionist was out of arguments, those three magic words were invoked to shut down the conversation with an outraged, “are you saying Israel doesn’t have the right to exist??”

Of course you couldn’t challenge Israel’s right to exist – that was like saying you were negating a fundamental Jewish right to have…rights, with all manner of Holocaust guilt thrown in for effect.

Except of course the Holocaust is not my fault – or that of Palestinians. The cold-blooded program of ethnically cleansing Europe of its Jewish population has been so callously and opportunistically utilized to justify the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian Arab nation, that it leaves me utterly unmoved. I have even caught myself – shock - rolling my eyes when I hear Holocaust and Israel in the same sentence.

What moves me instead in this post-two-state era, is the sheer audacity of Israel even existing.

What a fantastical idea, this notion that a bunch of rank outsiders from another continent could appropriate an existing, populated nation for themselves – and convince the “global community” that it was the moral thing to do. I’d laugh at the chutzpah if this wasn’t so serious.

Even more brazen is the mass ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Palestinian population by persecuted Jews, newly arrived from their own experience of being ethnically cleansed.

But what is truly frightening is the psychological manipulation of the masses into believing that Palestinians are somehow dangerous – “terrorists” intent on “driving Jews into the sea.” As someone who makes a living through words, I find the use of language in creating perceptions to be intriguing. This practice – often termed “public diplomacy” has become an essential tool in the world of geopolitics. Words, after all, are the building blocks of our psychology.

Take, for example, the way we have come to view the Palestinian-Israeli “dispute” and any resolution of this enduring conflict. And here I borrow liberally from a previous article of mine…

The United States and Israel have created the global discourse on this issue, setting stringent parameters that grow increasingly narrow regarding the content and direction of this debate. Anything discussed outside the set parameters has, until recently, widely been viewed as unrealistic, unproductive and even subversive.

Participation in the debate is limited only to those who prescribe to its main tenets: the acceptance of Israel, its regional hegemony and its qualitative military edge; acceptance of the shaky logic upon which the Jewish state's claim to Palestine is based; and acceptance of the inclusion and exclusion of certain regional parties, movements and governments in any solution to the conflict.

Words like dove, hawk, militant, extremist, moderates, terrorists, Islamo-fascists, rejectionists, existential threat, holocaust-denier, mad mullah determine the participation of solution partners -- and are capable of instantly excluding others.

Then there is the language that preserves "Israel's Right To Exist" unquestioningly: anything that invokes the Holocaust, anti-Semitism and the myths about historic Jewish rights to the land bequeathed to them by the Almighty – as though God was in the real-estate business. This language seeks not only to ensure that a Jewish connection to Palestine remains unquestioned, but importantly, seeks to punish and marginalize those who tackle the legitimacy of this modern colonial-settler experiment.

But this group-think has led us nowhere. It has obfuscated, distracted, deflected, ducked, and diminished, and we are no closer to a satisfactory conclusion…because the premise is wrong.

There is no fixing this problem. This is the kind of crisis in which you cut your losses, realize the error of your ways and reverse course. Israel is the problem. It is the last modern-day colonial-settler experiment, conducted at a time when these projects were being unraveled globally.

There is no “Palestinian-Israeli conflict” – that suggests some sort of equality in power, suffering, and negotiable tangibles, and there is no symmetry whatsoever in this equation. Israel is the Occupier and Oppressor; Palestinians are the Occupied and Oppressed. What is there to negotiate? Israel holds all the chips. They can give back some land, property, rights, but even that is an absurdity – what about everything else? What about ALL the land, property and rights? Why do they get to keep anything – how is the appropriation of land and property prior to 1948 fundamentally different from the appropriation of land and property on this arbitrary 1967 date?

Why are the colonial-settlers prior to 1948 any different from those who colonized and settled after 1967?

Let me correct myself. Palestinians do hold one chip that Israel salivates over – the one big demand at the negotiating table that seems to hold up everything else. Israel craves recognition of its “right to exist.”

But you do exist - don’t you, Israel?

Israel fears “delegitimization” more than anything else. Behind the velvet curtain lies a state built on myths and narratives, protected only by a military behemoth, billions of dollars in US assistance and a lone UN Security Council veto. Nothing else stands between the state and its dismantlement. Without these three things, Israelis would not live in an entity that has come to be known as the “least safe place for Jews in the world.”

Strip away the spin and the gloss, and you quickly realize that Israel doesn’t even have the basics of a normal state. After 64 years, it doesn’t have borders. After six decades, it has never been more isolated. Over half a century later, and it needs a gargantuan military just to stop Palestinians from walking home.

Israel is a failed experiment. It is on life-support – pull those three plugs and it is a cadaver, living only in the minds of some seriously deluded foreigners who thought they could pull off the heist of the century.

The most important thing we can do as we hover on the horizon of One State is to shed the old language rapidly. None of it was real anyway – it was just the parlance of that particular “game.” Grow a new vocabulary of possibilities – the new state will be the dawn of humanity’s great reconciliation. Muslims, Christians and Jews living together in Palestine as they once did.

Naysayers can take a hike. Our patience is wearing thinner than the walls of the hovels that Palestinian refugees have called “home” for three generations in their purgatory camps.

These universally exploited refugees are entitled to the nice apartments – the ones that have pools downstairs and a grove of palm trees outside the lobby. Because the kind of compensation owed for this failed western experiment will never be enough.

And no, nobody hates Jews. That is the fallback argument screeched in our ears – the one “firewall” remaining to protect this Israeli Frankenstein. I don’t even care enough to insert the caveats that are supposed to prove I don’t hate Jews. It is not a provable point, and frankly, it is a straw man of an argument. If Jews who didn’t live through the Holocaust still feel the pain of it, then take that up with the Germans. Demand a sizeable plot of land in Germany – and good luck to you.

For anti-Semites salivating over an article that slams Israel, ply your trade elsewhere – you are part of the reason this problem exists.

Israelis who don’t want to share Palestine as equal citizens with the indigenous Palestinian population – the ones who don’t want to relinquish that which they demanded Palestinians relinquish 64 years ago - can take their second passports and go back home. Those remaining had better find a positive attitude – Palestinians have shown themselves to be a forgiving lot. The amount of carnage they have experienced at the hands of their oppressors – without proportional response – shows remarkable restraint and faith.

This is less the death of a Jewish state than it is the demise of the last remnants of modern-day colonialism. It is a rite of passage – we will get through it just fine. At this particular precipice in the 21st century, we are all, universally, Palestinian – undoing this wrong is a test of our collective humanity, and nobody has the right to sit this one out.

Israel has no right to exist. Break that mental barrier and just say it: “Israel has no right to exist.” Roll it around your tongue, tweet it, post it as your Facebook status update – do it before you think twice. Delegitimization is here – have no fear. Palestine will be less painful than Israel ever was.

Sharmine Narwani is a commentary writer and political analyst covering the Middle East. You can follow Sharmine on twitter @snarwani.


Israel shall fall

This article, if printed, is wonderful fodder for insulation, bird cage fill, restroom stock or spit balls.

How arrogant to say "Roll it around your tongue, tweet it, post it as your Facebook status update – do it before you think twice."

Stating Israel has no right to exist doesn't require you to think twice, it requires you to not think at all. Anyone with any thought process or reason beyond Arab hegemony understands the tiny nation of Israel poses no threat - if the Arab/Muslim world stops trying to destroy it.

If Israel drops its weapons, it dies tomorrow. If the Arab/Muslim world drops its weapons, peace by noon.

If Palestine drops its weapons, there will be peace by noon, but freedom and self-determination never.

If Israel decides abandons its religious-based colonialsm and agrees to share land, there will be peace by noon, and freedom for everyone by 12:15.

I couldn't agree more

Israel has no right to exist

I think you should read the history of how Israelites got the land that now is known as ISRAEL, is was a desert and they made it what is now. If the palestinians want a piece of that they should work hard like the Israelites did instead they complain, play victim and just sit in their lazy fat asses. Why don they stop using woman and children as human shields, and start building a better country for the Palestinian civilians.

I'm sorry but you are the one being ignorant and intellectually lazy. Why not read this here. Palestine was not an abandoned desert. Jews owned only 7% of the land and made up only 33% of the population. Palestinian Arabs outperformed the Jews agriculturally and owned the vast majority of the wealth and assets of Palestine as documented in ALL available records from the Palestinian Mandate era. The following links will hopefully demonstrate this:


Please don't believe media.

You are idiot

I loved the honesty of this piece. Thank you for being brave enough to write it & so eloquently. If Israelis love their children and want a future for them, then the two people's must learn not only to live together, but be one nation.

What right does any country have to exist ? Simply, they have it and defended it from those whom would take it away from them. End of story. Every country that exist has the right to exist.

I'm sorry but you are an idiot and people should be ashamed to say they know you. Forget biblical rights. Jews have that land legaly. There was no stealing. The Jews turned Israel into an independend state. These people who are suicide bombers on buses, who kidnap children and murder them and use their own children as shields arnt terrorists? Arnt bad people? How would you feel towards the people that kidnap your child and murder them in cold blood? You wouldn't think they bad people? So seriously stop talking about shit you don't understand or are too stupid to understand.

If you occupy someone else's home, throw them out and put your name plate on door. And then if the thrown person retaliates, you call it unjust? If you get something on lease, do you have a right to change title? And then keep on making your own rules?

I have a very simple question that I would like answered. I expect you to answer it honestly without venom or hostility. It is a question that many people of the world have. Currently, in the Cairo museum, is a stone with the name Israel chiseled on it, celebrating the defeat of "Israel" in its eqyptian conquest. This stone is from 1200 BC. Why is it then that arabs do not believe Israel has a right to exist? Is it just convenient to say so for political reasons? Is there evidence that Arabs/ and those of Muslim faith existed on that land previously and it was taken from them?

In the natural history museum in Ireland we have all sorts of relics from the Vikings dating back over 1000 years. Should the Scandinavians or any descendants of the Vikings try to tell us they have the right to ethnically cleanse our land they would swiftly be told where to go.

You, and many extreme Arab apologists, say Israel has no right to exist because it was built as the result of conquest and violence. So was the entire Arab world--Arab/Muslim armies swept out of the Arabian peninsula and conquered the Middle East (including Syria, Palestine and Lebanon), Egypt and North Africa. If you say that the Jews should go back to Europe (and many of them, by the way, are not of European ancestry by Middle Eastern), then by all rights, all the Arabs should evacuate Arab territory from Morocco to Iraq, and go back to Saudi Arabia.

If Anonymous, foaming at the mouth, really thinks that every "fact" in the bogus "From Time Immemorial" is "verified", he should read the reviews of same by, among others, Norman Finkelstein, Professor Yehoshua Porath, the leading Israeli authority on Palestinian nationalism, David and Ian Gilmour in the London Times, etc. There he will discover all the misquotations and fabricated lies of Miss Peters opus.

Joan Peters (who most definitely is not the real author of the book) quotes 14th century Arabs on nineteenth century Palestinian population statistics. She mentions Hourani Arab who entered Palestine to find work but forgets to mention that they left shortly thereafter. She constantly alters the quotes from British White Papers to make them say what they do not say. Miss Peters did not write the book; a committee of Zionist propagandists wrote the book for her - and then stuck her name on same because she is the wife of a high Jewish official.

"From Time Immemorial" is one of the great historical frauds of all time. It is therefore a favorite reference work for Talmudic minds trained in lies and deceptions from infancy.


The Israeli-Palestinian struggle is never stated in its real terms. It is easy to understand why. It is merely necessary to reverse the parties to state the issue in its real terms. In the 1880’s the international Arab lobby decides to create an Arab “national home” in Jewish Palestine. The fact that the Jews have been living in and farming Palestine ever since the Jewish conquest in the seventh century A.D. is a decided inconvenience. However, Mohammed promised Palestine to the Arabs in the Koran and 1300 years of Jewish occupancy must not be allowed to get in the way. The Arabs begin to set up their colonies in Jewish Palestine, sparking strong Jewish opposition. But by 1919, the end of the Great War, there are still 610,000 Jews in Palestine and only 90,000 Arabs, most of them recent arrivals.

On November 2, 1917 the mighty British Empire issues its famous “Abdullah declaration” proclaiming its support for an Arab “national home” in Palestine providing that nothing will be done which might prejudice the rights of “the existing , non-Islamic portions of the population” (meaning the Jews, the intended victims of the dispossession). The declaration further stipulates that nothing in the declaration shall prejudice the rights of Arabs living in countries other than Palestine or tint them with the charge of dual loyalty. Sir Herbert Sneaky Sheik, the first High Commissioner for Palestine, proclaims that the incoming Arabs have no intent of dispossessing the Jews who have lived and tilled the soil of Palestine for a thousand years. The Arabs use the British military to display an “iron wall of bayonets” to keep the native Jews at bay while Arab immigration flows into Palestine. As Yassir Jabotinsky puts it in two famous newspaper articles, the Jews of Palestine will never come to an agreement in the future unless there is no agreement now. Only when all hope is lost to the Jews of recovering their land will they accept the accomplished fact of an Arab state. Chaim Abdullah more moderately proclaims that “Palestine is to become as Arab as England is English “. The Jews start rioting and revolting, thinking that Arab immigration will soon overwhelm them and drive them into the desert. One English White Paper after another reaches the same conclusion, although the Arab “national home” and continued Arab immigration are already “a thing decided upon”. During the war the Arab Zionists steal arms and munitions from British military depots. When WW2 ends or shorty before, the Fighters for the Freedom of Abdullah’s Palestine start assassinating and blowing up English soldiers and officials. They hang British sergeants from eucalyptus trees and booby trap the bodies. They launch a gigantic smuggling plan to ship arms and munitions from America to supply the slaughter. Arab carpet dealers in New York wrap magic carpets around machine guns prior to shipping them.to Palestine. Dual loyalist Congressmen, like Ali Baines Johnson, use Abdullah Fruit Company boxes to pack guns, ammo and scimitars for use in Palestine. Mohammed Hecht writes A Flag is Born and opines in The New York Herald Tribune that every time “an Arab terrorist blows up a British building or arsenal or massacres a Jewish village” that “the Arabs of America make a little holiday in their hearts”. The Arab Zionists even consider a cancelled plot to blow up anti-Arab Zionists English MP’s and both houses of Parliament. They send letter bombs from Mecca and Medina to kill and maim their adversaries.

Joseph Stalin calculates that he could use “Arab cosmopolitans” to his own ends. He instructs the “Arab commissars” in Czechoslovakia to provide airplanes and bombs to the Arab Zionists. Backed with Soviet munitions the Arab Zionists drive the Jews into the desert. The Arab Zionists perpetrate a horrible massacre at Deir Yassein murdering defenseless Jewish civilians. Arabs around the world are thrilled by the creation of the state of Abdullah. Seven hundred thousand Jews kicked into the desert in clear sight of their stolen land, homes and farms are not so enthusiastic. They believe that they are the victims of a great injustice. But since all the politicians are owned by Islamic money and pledge allegiance to the Taliban international, justice for Jews counts for nothing.

I don't know how many open minds I can find in this website, but if truth really interest you, and you feel that it might being covered by a systematic Palestinian propaganda machine of lies, you should only Google for expressions around the subject of why Israel is right, and the truth will be manifested in front of you like a magic.

The thing is that the Palestinians and the Arab countries will never grant Israel the "License to live" and all their blah blah blah about their misery and oppression and about Israel being racist and Apartheid country, is just a big smoke screen of lies aimed to cover the ultimate truth.

You have Google these days, do what you need to do to find the truth yourself. You'll be amazed, trust me about it.

Have a good one.

Good job !

The fact that anonymous quotes Joan Peters notorious historical fraud "from Time Immemorial" as the basis for his arguments says everything anyone needs to know about the quality of his arguments. Here is the bottom line truth he ignores.


The Zionist pretense that Palestine was a deserted land between the “return” is truly laughable. Travelers throughout the centuries noted the presence of Arabs in the land. The orange groves of Jaffa were famous from crusader times. During the 16th and 17th centuries France regularly imported Palestinian Arab wheat and grain when famine threatened. Cotton was one of Palestine’s principal export crops during the 18th and 19th centuries, as Jewish scholars themselves have noted. When the American Civil War cut off Confederate cotton exports to English mills, the English got their cotton from the Arabs of Palestine. Many crops such as barley, bananas and corn were harvested by the Palestinians. Olive trees and grapes were harvested all over the land. Gigantic fisheries were operated on Lake Tiberias and on the coastal plains. A soap factory functioned in Nablus. None of these facts is even remotely consistent with the Zionist fiction that Palestine was a deserted land.

The Zionist scouts who visited Palestine in the late 19th century reported back to headquarters in Berlin that the land of Palestine was full of Arabs and that every available acre was being plowed. They said that the Arabs were deeply attached to the land and would never voluntarily depart. Some of the Zionists pretended that they would be able to win the Arabs to their cause by enticing them with a higher standard of living; others more candidly admitted that the Arabs would have to be expelled by force when the incoming Zionists became sufficiently powerful. When the Zionist ambition was in its initial stages they were careful to camouflage their intentions. Sir Herbert Samuel, the English Jew who was the first British High Commissioner for Palestine, proclaimed that it would be a shame to him as a Jew if the Arabs who had “tilled the soil and lived in the towns for a thousand years “were to be dispossessed. He also stated that, as the Arabs were then (circa 1920) the majority of the population the opinion of the world would not tolerate their dispossession by an incoming Zionist minority. Max Nordau, the famous Zionist, admitted that the expression “national home” was a deliberate circumlocution for an eventual Zionist state.

These false assertions and broken promises form an interesting comparison with the present claims of the Zionists that the Jewish state they were never going to create has an “inalienable right to exist”. Even in the early days of the British mandate some Zionists were remarkably candid about their true aims. Vladimir Jabotinsky wrote two famous essays in a Russian language newspaper in Paris. They were entitled “The Iron Wall” and “The Iron Law”. Jabotinsky freely admitted that the Arabs of Palestine were not savages. They were members of an inferior culture but were nevertheless deeply attached to the land where they had lived for centuries. They were not about to sell their homeland for lucre. The Arabs of Palestine would never consent to a Jewish state in their midst until all hope was lost to them. This would require “An iron wall of bayonets” to compel submission to the inevitable. Then, and only then, would the Arabs come to terms.

Such unequivocal language is a deep embarrassment to the Zionists of today. It gives the lie to their pretense that they came to a deserted land. Thus, they attempt to bury such statements by never mentioning them in the media they control. When the British were in control of Palestine from the end of the First World War until 1948, they were confronted by constant problems. The basic problem was the insoluble one – how to create a Jewish state in Arab Palestine while simultaneously protecting the rights of the soon to be dispossessed Arabs. It was impossible of course. But since the Arabs rioted constantly in 1920, 1921, 1929 and 1936-1939, the British felt compelled to investigate the sources of the never-ending Palestine problem by writing White Papers. They wrote the unpublished Palin report in 1920, the Haycraft report in 1921, the Shaw report in 1929, the Passfield White Paper of 1930 and the Peel Commission report of 1937. All these English White Papers reached the same essential conclusion – the Arabs of Palestine were rioting because they feared that they would eventually be expelled into the desertwhen the Jews were sufficiently numerous and powerful to do so. The English also knew this but since the Jewish “national home” was already a thing “decided upon”, there was no effective remedy available.

In 1939 the British issued their famous White Paper in which they repudiated their intention of creating a Jewish state in Palestine. They proclaimed it an injustice to the Arabs that could no longer be tolerated. 75,000 Jews world be admitted to Palestine over the next five years after which no more Jews would be admitted without the consent of the Arabs. This motivated the Jews to prepare for the eventual war against both the British and the Arabs that would inevitably follow the conclusion of the Second World War. The Jews began stealing arms from British military depots. In 1944, while the war against the Germans was still in progress, the Jewish underground began its campaign of assassination and murder against English officials and soldiers.They assassinated Lord Walter Moyne, the British High Commissioner for Egypt in Cairo. The Irgun blew up the southwest wing of the King David Hotel where the British mandatory government was housed, killing ninety people. They blew up the Semiramis Hotel, killing and injuring many. The Jewish terrorists also hung the two British sergeants in retaliation for the hanging of Dov Gruner and then booby trapped their bodies as they dangled from the eucalyptus tree. One of their more notable achievements was the spectacular escape from Acre prison.

The Zionists did not limit themselves to killing in Palestine. They attempted to murder British Palestine officials and soldiers after they had retired from service. This was done by letter bombs and other criminal deices. The attempted assassinations were so sensitive that many of the English files are sealed to this day. In reviewing this abysmal record of slaughter and mayhem, it is well to recall that the Jews doing same are the same Jews who came to Palestine in the late 19th century professing a desire to live in peace and harmony with the Arabs and to help them with the up building of the land. The Jews will, of course, claim that the Arabs are the problem. The Arabs rejected Lord Balfour’s declaration; they refused to compromise, they allegedly fired the first shot in the 1948 war, etc. etc.

But the bottom line is that the Jews came, uninvited and unwanted, to an Arab land – and then did precisely what they promised they would never do – establish a Jewish state and expel the centuries old residents of the land. Not all their apologias and circumlocutions can get around this fact. That is why they scream whenever the fac

please read the 1949 armistice agreements, signed by the leaders of previous generations of all current participants. a deal is a deal. time to move on and establish a pali state NEXT to israel.

Israel has every right to exist like every other country does. What if it was the other way around Arabs, huh? Wouldn't you be affended?

If you think you know so much, please take the time before your opinion is "written in stone" and read From Time Immemorial by Joan Peters. Every fact is documented, all sources and legal documents are shown. After you read it, see if you can still make the same argument. Right now, you are missing half the history you should know.

First of all Israel has every right to exist. i) You say that Zionists are the problem because we took the land forcefully from the Palestinians but it was never theirs in the first place. Is your claim that you were THERE FIRST because no you were not. ii) You go into a rant about how Jews are the problem and we should take it up with Germany so you really are a half-witted swine (I'd prefer not to use harsher language). The Jews were given land that was rightfully theirs. No scratch that they SHARED the land. But it was not good enough for the arabs. They attacked Israel and killed many citizens. iii) The Jews have been living under an autonomous government for years and we left because we were unjustly kicked out by the Romans but then again nobody hates on them for that. iiii) Palestine as a country has never existed. The name was given to them by the British who controlled them which shows how ironic your argument is. The Palestinians have no claim whatsoever to the land. In fact if you knew anything about history you would know that they were kicked out of Jordan so why don't you send them back there.
You know the double standards held for Israel really amuses me because America took land from the Mexican's but they don't complain about it because America has a huge ass army. The British took land from the native americans but no one especially you care about that. The actual truth is you and all the other anti-Semitic shitheads like you are jealous. You are jealous because we made a barren land into a prosperous democratic society that is thriving in the economical and technological fields. Something almost all of the arab countries dont have despite your abundant resources. So instead of being proactive you become a cynical bastard and take out your aggression on the jewel of the middle east and falsely claim it is justified. So there you go you condescending bastard a valid argument without using Hitler or the holocaust.

Half of your history is missing.
i) You say that Zionists are the problem because we took the land forcefully from the Palestinians but it was never theirs in the first place. Is your claim that you were THERE FIRST because no you were not.

Yes, Zionists started colonizing Palestine since the 1880s, look it up. Palestinians were living their for centuries before millions of Sephardi and Anasazi Jews arrived.

ii) You go into a rant about how Jews are the problem and we should take it up with Germany so you really are a half-witted swine (I'd prefer not to use harsher language). The Jews were given land that was rightfully theirs. No scratch that they SHARED the land. But it was not good enough for the arabs. They attacked Israel and killed many citizens

Really? swine? Didn't get the parable with Germany? The Germany analogy shows that the Jews of Israel have become like their persecutors, the Nazis. By the way, the Haganah destroyed hundreds of villages and carried out 60-70 massacres before any Arab state "invaded Israel".

iii) "Palestine as a country has never existed. The name was given to them by the British who controlled them which shows how ironic your argument is. The Palestinians have no claim whatsoever to the land. In fact if you knew anything about history you would know that they were kicked out of Jordan so why don't you send them back there.

Palestine was a name recognized during the time of the Romans. The West Bank is occupied territory that Israel captured after starting the 1967 war by attacking Egypt so how can Jordan kick them out? Occupation and apartheid. If you studied history, you wouldn't defend Israel's violation of hundreds of UN international laws. By the way, assuming the Pals have no rights and were simply labelled Pals by the British, the same argument would suggest that Israel does not have the right to exist since it was co-created by Britain in 1948.

You know the double standards held for Israel really amuses me because America took land from the Mexican's but they don't complain about it because America has a huge ass army. The British took land from the native americans but no one especially you care about that. The actual truth is you and all the other anti-Semitic shitheads like you are jealous.

Wait a minute? So you are saying that Israel has a right to exist because of what America has done? Partners in crime? No one tries to justify what we did to the Mexicans or Native Americans today. Why are you comparing the "modern day, democratic Israel" to the US over 200 years ago?

'you are jealous because we made a barren land into a prosperous democratic society that is thriving in the economical and technological fields. Something almost all of the arab countries dont have despite your abundant resources.'

Most of those "Arab" countries have had their natural resources plundered by Western powers. Last time I checked Saudi was quite wealthy due to its oil reserves.

You are jealous because we made a barren land into a prosperous democratic society that is thriving in the economical and technological fields. Something almost all of the arab countries dont have despite your abundant resources.

Jealous? Really? Lol, only if that means I'm also jealous of Turkey and South Africa's apartheid. Israel only became successful through war and occupation. Its economy and wealth would never have taken off had Israel not launched land grabs after starting the 1967 war. Technologies like computers did not exist until the 90s. Real technological achievements in Israel are no more than a decade old, and contribute little to Israel's economy.

Israel also happen to be the biggest financial aid receiver from the US. So I don't see how "we made a barren land into a prosperous democratic society" really rings true in the face of apartheid.

So there you go you condescending bastard a valid argument without using Hitler or the holocaust.

The article pointed out, if you understand English, that the Palestinians were not responsible for the Holocaust of Jews, so why has Israel continued its Holocaust against the Pals?

Never theirs in the first place? Despite them having the legal documents and they being of the land as opposed to some insane members of an European cult with designs on it? I think you are all collectively insane infesting blogs with that absolutely insane claim. Did not even bother reading beyond the first line because I feel I know whats coming the same usual lame insane whines. Seek help.

A common misconception is that all the Jews were forced into the Diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 C.E. and then, 1,800 years later, the Jews suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years.

But the truth is - even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem, and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in the Land of Israel continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea. The Crusaders massacred many Jews during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years.

By the early 19th century—years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement—more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.1 The 78 years of nation-building, beginning in 1870, culminated in the reestablishment of the Jewish State.

Israel’s uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel’s admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel’s people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence. So saying Israel has no right to exist might make you feel all warm and cuddly inside your cozy little bubble, but if you ever make it out into a real world you'll realize that you are going nowhere with this argument.

It looks like Iran recognizes Birobidjan as a Jewish homeland under Russian auspices, but not Israel under U.S. auspices..

I think you could have summarized your entire rant in 2 sentences: 'ISRAEL has not right to exist. Naysayers can take a hike. " Of course you would not like if someone threw in your face arguments about Palestinians being made-up people, not indigenous to the Levant area and no claim to their own land, other than the fact that they happen to be present in the area when the United Nations partitioned British mandate territories between Jews and Arabs. You say Israel has no right to exist because it has no borders in 60 years? What does Palestine have, except a dysfunctional government, dysfunctional economy, crumbling infrastructure and brainwashed fanatical population. Please let's avoid demagoguery and let's not throw Holocaust into this. Noone is blaming you for the holocaust even though your leaders did take a substantial part in it. You are asking why there is no peace in the Middle East - well it's because of angry, asinine fanatics such as yourself.

Neither Islam nor Judaism are naturally occurring things -- both are manmade philosophies, like all religion. Neither is more legitimate than the other. It's time to worry about other human beings, rather than killing each other because we believe our ancient fairy tales are better than someone else's. Both Zionism and the Palestinian liberation movement have become little more than justification to commit murder. It's time to put humanity first and stop fetishizing religion and ethnicity. Both sides need to stop the killing. Now.

Responding to Mike D. Excuse me, but there is no "both sides." Palestine is Arab land and it belongs to the Palestinians like Greec belongs to the Greeks. More importantly, they have every right to liberate the land as they see fit.

So when the Chinese atheists take over Eastern Russia and Siberia while the retarded Western neo-atheists and leftists(who fetishize "gays") bleat like sheep over Putin's anti-gay policies, ignoring the major demographic disaster that Russia is facing, are we going to see them on the frontlines defending Russia from the Chinese hordes?! And many of your White ilk do fetishize ethnicity.

Bravo Sharmine !!! Simply beautiful writing.

You have something that many people do not possess today;

a skill to write exceptionally well and factual and a voice without fear.
This is something that is diminishing in society today.

As for all the zionist liars and other hypocrites who've been commenting above ..... keep deceiving yourselves by making up stories and trying to
re-write history.

Freedom for Palestine ! Viva la Palestine !

Sharmine, you and your writing are simply GODLIKE. Bravo, well done, keep it up. It's our time now, we're gonna make it in the end with the help of people like you, and the end is nearing...

Keep it up the effort people!

Sharmine, marry me before the methane kills us all.
I want you to tell me how you became so smart.
All sentient humans are in love with you.

The genocidal entity currently styling itself "Israel" is a mere mole or wart on the enduring body of Palestine. Here today, gone tomorrow. Will it shrivel and disappear naturally, or will it be removed surgically? Time will tell, but either way, "You will not be here. We shall fight you until you leave the land you have defiled, and then we shall sprinkle the Haram al-sharif with rose water, just as we did after the Crusades."

Vive la Palestine !

The Zionists are not into facts. Simply read their comments below. The fact is under the British Mandate the last concensus was taken in 1931. And who were the majority? The British Palestine papers are clear on who lived there. The British and the Ottomans were quite clear on who lived there. Now 400 years of Ottoman rule & these Zionists from the 4 corners of the globe who were witnesses to nothing think they can rewrite history to tell us the land was empty. All the villages in Palestine are documented but these foreigners who witnessed nothing, whose recent emigration date to Palestine is known want us to believe their Zionist fiction that the land was empty. So the British and the Ottomans imagine they were ruling over people that never existed.

Palestine DOES NOT HAVE TH RIGHT TO EXIT ONLY ISRAEL DOES. So if the Zionists don't belong in that land then neither do the Arabs because the Arabs savagely waged war against the Byzantines and stole most of their land killing Christians and Jews. Besides when Israel was created Arabs were begged to stay in that land and those who stayed became Israeli citizens with equal rights. However the jews DID got kicked out of nearly all Arab countries. Also Israel is the only country in the Middle East who has achieved many scientific advancements which none of the terrorist muslims could have ever dream of. And the only reason the Islamic empires had many achievements was mostly in part due to them conquering Egypt and Iraq which had been under Greek and Byzantine influences which gave them all the knowledge of those civilizations otherwise the muslims would also like the Western Europeans draw blood form sick people in order to "cure" them. And lat but most importantly Israel is the only country safe for non muslims and that ridiculous claim that non muslims have been living under Islamic conquest without being unharmed is asinine because non muslims were subjected to pay the humiliating tax known as jizya yet muslims claim to respect every religion when Muhammad(warmongering pedophile) killed 900 jews, raped many women, had sex with a nine year old girl Aisha( whom he maried when she was 6 years old and practiced a sexual practice known as mufa khathat where he would have non penetrative sex with her on her thighs until she was 9 years old and muslims around the world still DO). Islam is a war mongering religion which should not be allowed to exist and I am proud to say that I am an atheist who was raised muslim I am a proud apostate and have ripped many qurans and burn them along with pig bones (* no I am not kidding I swear I have done this many times even in front of imams).

You sir, are a fascist Zionist idiot

you said you're an atheist, you were a muslim and I guess u think u found out the truth after being lied to, finally, after all these years of lies, you found the truth!!
that's way too good for you, but sorry, u haven't found any truth,
Palestine does not have the right to exist because arabs stole it from the byzantines, how stupid r you? or should I say, how uneducated r you? ethnically, Palestinians are NOT arabs, culturally & linguistically, similar, but they are not arabs, they may have a little bit of arab blood running through them, it's to be expected when you live in one region, people tend to intermix one particular region especially they've been ruled by the same empire numerous times, BUT, get this in your mind, DO SOME RESEARCH, ethnically, palestinians are NOT arabs, culturally, they are NOT arabs, linguistically, they speak an arabic dialect, but occupation, just like how the jews are forcing them to speak hebrew now, it causes them to adopt the language of the occupiers.

jews begged palestinians to stay? you're making me laugh, how could you even think that you've found out the truth when you're still so blinded by propagandas? first, again, do some research about this like you would do if you're gonna write a book that has be based on facts not using sources from propaganda websites. second, how on earth could you even believe this bullshit in your mind?
Zionists have no interest in having palestinians in palestine, not in the past, not now, not in a billion, or even zillion years, if you really believe in zionism, that is to create a jewish homeland in biblical stories, there's nothing they want more than for the palestinians to LEAVE. even IF their bullshit claims that palestinians want to peacefully leave their houses, they will NOT and NEVER beg the palestinians to stay, why on earth will they do that? they have to keep their demographic majority jewish! the palestinians want to leave? good, there's no need to waste any energy to get them outta here!

(c'mon, r u kidding me? let me ask you this, your neighbors tell you, HEY, LEAVE YOUR HOUSE NOW, WE'RE GONNA KILL THE OCCUPIERS, WE WILL WIN AND YOU CAN COME BACK ONCE WE'VE WON TO LOOT THOSE LOSERS' STUFF, RUN!!!! would you really, in the right mind of yours, simply because your neighbors said that, leave your house?????!!!!!!! well, I guess, as stupid as your mind are right now, you would listen to your dear neighbors and leave the house with your wife and children, thinking that your neighbors will help you kill the oppressors and not loot any of your possessions in your house!)

Hmmm the problem is, the zionists aren't the only ones to spread propaganda. In fact many more people think Palestine should be free, instead of Israel existing! The Palestinians use pallywood, where they stage Israeli war crimes, to trick foreign newsgroups to thinking they are the poor people who are fighting the oppressors. I'm not saying that not all of the incidents with zionists forcing people out of their homes is fake and how Israeli police fire on unarmed Palestinians with live ammunition but from all the videos they show on the news, you could tell it is all fake. A man pretending to be shot in the chest by a Israeli police during a protest but a few minutes later he is back on his feet? It's a bit discrediting don't you think? Also, while the Palestinians are the indigenous of the land, there were many other groups of people who inhabited land before the palestines settled there and the term Palestinian only came during the 1834 independence revolt against the Ottoman Empire wheras the Israelites had settled on the land long before and there was historical proof of that. The Israelites didn't die out like the other groups if people. The simply emigrated when Romans came clashing down. But while the land of palestine/ Israel is disputed, I agree of your argument that Palestinians are not Arabs, though they are known as of today. They were a mixture of the many past people of palestine, and they were only known as Arabs when they were converted into Islam. I don't like the ways of Israel dealing with things by ethnic cleansing and building settlements over disputed land, but you have to agree, Israel has made a lot of achievements in science and technology while boasting a high living standard in all out her land. But does that mean I like the ways of Hezbollah and Hamas dealing with Israel with their rockets fired at civilians and carrying out terrorist attacks on both innocent Israelis and worse, their own people?

There is a curse on Jews nation and the palastanian that's why they don't have their own land till qayamat the end of the world the resurrection. This dipute has no solution. They will lead misarable life by fighting with each other and later Syria will add with them.

Put simply you are an idiot. Israel has every right to their land and the biblical rights are true. Your too bias and don't care, get your mind in shape

You just went full retard... never go full retard..

Anyone who cites the Bible as justification for anything is a fool.

I think that to prove your arguement with more conviction some more facts might be needed.I have a few questions.

Who did Palestine elect in their first elections?

Is Hamas declared a terroist group?


This is ho you are defending. I sypathize with the Palestinian people, but both sides have made bad choices. I think that you have a few holes especailly about the history of the Palestinian state. If I was to take your arguement seriously I need more proof.

lets begin by answering your questions:

Who did Palestine in their first elections? Palestinians elected Hamas in a free election practicing their democratic right to chose whomsoever they will to rule in their own land.

Is Hamas declared a terrorist group? No.

Why? Hamas is resistance movement (also) practicing their right of resistance against occupiers. A right even stated in international law. An occupied nation or people have the right to fight for their land back just as you would if I came and kicked you out of your house.

you see if you read the article above carefully, you will understand who throws the terms "extremists", "terrorists" and for what reasons.

only a deluded would argue that an oppressor has the right to exist/oppress. only a deluded would call an oppressed a terrorist.

One of the main non-religious zionist argument seems to be that there were no capital city or literature and so forh and that the place was then for the taking. Well in my opinion that argument (too) does not hold at all. People lived here, had there houses and villages and towns. That is enough. If you want to make an indepandente state there you have to ask the people who live there, that is the only moral way to establish a new state.

As an American, I totally agree. I've seen through the lie of Israel since I knew I was created out of the aftermath of WWII. I agree that dissolving an illegitimate country for the sake of overall peace would be better, and even now the leaders of this so called country are about to attack Iran just because they want clean energy? The USA is the only country ever stupid / ignorant enough to use an atomic weapon... Well Russia tried, but failed horribly like they do at everything.

Arabs have been saying this bull for the last 70 years, and Israel is still there, still prosperous, still democratic, still culturally and scientifically prolific, still militarily strong. It's not going anywhere, no matter how much Arabs fantasize about its allegedly imminent collapse. Nor are Israeli Jews going to consent to live in Lebanon II, with themselves in the role of the Maronites. The fact of the matter is that the Israeli War of Independence was a war in which the Palestinian Arabs proclaimed their intent to commit genocide on their Jewish neighbors and attempted to do just that. They lost, and the result was a pretty much equal exchange of refugee populations - 750,000 Arabs left what became Israel, and 850,000 Jews fled Arab states for Israel. It's hardly Israel's fault that Arab governments chose to hold on to the wealth they confiscated from the fleeing Jews rather than use it to compensate the fleeing Arabs, as should have been done. Nor is it Israel's fault that the neighboring Arab States have seen fit to keep their Palestinian Arab "brothers" festering in refugee camps.

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