5280688_Fwd: RE: Pls fwd to Fred

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Date 2011-09-14 15:23:53
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Do we trust everyone on the list enough to reveal the source's physical location? I was going to remove it, just in case...

On 9/14/11 9:19 AM, Fred Burton wrote:

Go, we may want to find that house; note grid coordinates. I would post in context to the threat.

On 9/14/2011 8:16 AM, Anya Alfano wrote:

Okay to post?

On 9/14/11 9:15 AM, Fred Burton wrote:

Good skinny. This is what is defined as a credible source. Not
some windbag Paki academic belching and passing gas.

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Subject: RE: Pls fwd to Fred
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:12:30 -0400
From: James F. Smith
To: Fred Burton


Last week of August I was at a house here (32DEG 52.552'N / 13DEG 8.512'E) owned by a man last name Hakin (like the MOD Hakin but not the same man).

After midnight we recv'd ph call from anonymous caller telling him to get ready for a vehicle to come by to pick him up and take him to a pos so he could pickup some money.

We then called a contact at MOD and ran it by them, they knew of the ruse somehow and said it was a trap aimed at the real Hakin (MOD head) and that we should vacate asap.

We grabbed weapons, go-bag and moved out of the house on foot down the streets (can't drive this area due to roadblocks at every corner) to a safe(r) house. I happened to be solo that night. I moved him to the top of the house (3rd deck), barricaded the door on ground and the access to the roof, then put him down and maintained overwatch of the street below from the roof til dawn.

This happens frequently here. Definite threat to NTC and lower level brigade leadership as well.

From: Fred Burton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:06 AM
To: James F. Smith
Subject: Re: Pls fwd to Fred

Credible in your eyes?

On 9/14/2011 8:02 AM, James F. Smith wrote:

Rgr//thank you.

From: Fred Burton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:49 AM
To: James F. Smith
Subject: Re: Pls fwd to Fred

Libyan source warns of possible assassination operations against NTC members

Excerpt from report by Saudi-owned leading pan-Arab daily Al-Sharq al-Awsat website on 14 September

[Report by Khalid Mahmud in Cairo: "Libya: Revolutionaries'
Disagreements Impede Search for Fugitive Al-Qadhafi"]

The efforts to arrest the fugitive Libyan Colonel Mu'ammar al-Qadhafi, who is still somewhere unknown inside Libyan territories, receded relatively yesterday as the revolutionaries and the Transitional National Council [NTC] became preoccupied with disagreements that escalated and surfaced for the first time with Islamic political groups that opened fire early at the NTC at an unexpected end of the honeymoon which did not last long between the two sides.

While NTC Chairman Counsellor Mustafa Abd-al-Jalil was issuing from Martyrs Square in the Libyan capital Tripoli messages to assure the Western coalition backing the revolutionaries that he would not allow any extremist ideology, whether from the right or the left, Ali al-Salabi, the prominent leader in the Muslim Brotherhood [MB] group, came out with unprecedented violent and sharp criticisms of Dr Mahmud Jibril, chairman of the NTC's Executive Bureau, which reached the point of demanding his resignation.

These developments prompted a high-level official in the NTC to warn of possible assassinations against some NTC members, particularly in view of the proliferation of weapons all over the country. This official, who asked to remain unnamed, said by telephone from Tripoli "we fear that the political clash will lead to a military one. There are fears of assassination operations like that of martyr Major General Abd-al-Fattah Yunus", the former commander of the revolutionaries forces who was assassinated in mysterious circumstances by gunmen believed to be Islamists in Benghazi at the end of July. [Passage omitted on Abd-al-Jalil's speech, Al-Salabi's statements]

In view of this unexpected attack by Al-Salabi, sources close to Jibril disclosed to Al-Sharq al-Awsat that Jibril refused to give the MB more than one ministerial portfolio in the government he intends to form from about 20 ministers. The sources said the MB sought in the past to persuade Jibril to give it five ministerial portfolios, among them the awqaf, information, and interior ministries, but he refused from the premise that this would put the country within the framework of a quota government and not a government of technocrats that carries out its responsibilities during the transitional period of 18 months.

Libyan activists and politicians told Al-Sharq al-Awsat yesterday that they called for a march that was supposed to be staged last night from outside Al-Mahari Hotel in Tripoli to denounce Al-Salabi's statements as part of similar demonstrations aimed at stressing that there is a public opinion against such views.

A NTC official told Al-Sharq al-Awsat the NTC is being subjected to what he called "a campaign of distortion" by some political trends which believe it threatens their interests and endeavours to occupy leading posts in the next government. The official, who asked to remain unnamed, added "this is an overt and public blackmail campaign. We will not allow the NTC and its government to be dragged to these dirty tricks. We still have before us momentous and very grave tasks and what is happening is mere political drivel whose time has not yet come."

Al-Sharq al-Awsat has learned that Dr Jibril is coming under political pressures from the armed groups and revolutionaries to give them ministerial posts too. An official connected to the upcoming government told this newspaper: "Yes, he (Jibril) is coming under pressures but refuses to yield to them. His task as he sees it is to form a national government based on the principle of competence and professionalism before any other considerations."

But a NTC member said the formation of the new government might not be easy because it would not have everybody's support and pointed out that all the political forces are now aspiring to play a public political role and obtain the price for their participation in or backing for the Libyan people's uprising against Al-Qadhafi.

Amidst these political disagreements which prove that the honeymoon between the Islamists and NTC has ended prematurely, the efforts to locate the whereabouts of the fugitive Col. Al-Qadhafi, his sons, and his senior military and security aides have slowed down at a time when the revolutionaries are fighting fierce battles with the colonel's remnant forces to retake his last strongholds in Sirte and Bani Walid.

A security official in the special unit hunting Al-Qadhafi said the efforts exerted to pinpoint his whereabouts since his escape from Tripoli on 21 August were mostly unsuccessful. Speaking by telephone from Tripoli on condition of remaining anonymous, the official added "we have conflicting information. No one has anything definite about his (Al-Qadhafi's) hideout. We are still hoping to reach him as quickly as possible." He pointed out that the reason for the delay in forming the new government under Dr Jibril has to do with Al-Qadhafi's arrest or killing, adding "we want the announcement of the government to be done with the announcement with the regime's official and final downfall and this cannot be done if we do not arrest Al-Qadhafi or kill him if he refused to surrender."

In the field, the revolutionaries appeared yesterday to be on the verge of attacking the city of Bani Walid where forces loyal to Al-Qadhafi are entrenched amidst the large-scale exodus of the city's citizens who described the living conditions inside it as miserable because of the communications and electricity stoppages. The revolutionaries stopped their advance to resolve the city's fate for some time so as to enable these citizens to escape somewhere far from the fighting while Al-Qadhafi's forces reinforced their military positions inside the city and made rooftops the pads for missile launchers, according to remarks by military sources to the revolutionaries' "Libya al-Ahrar" channel.

Violent clashes erupted between the revolutionaries and the regiments in the streets of Sirte, Al-Qadhafi's birthplace, as reports circulated that his son Al-Mu'tasim, who is the national security adviser, is in the city. The revolutionaries succeeded in forcing Al-Qadhafi's forces to retreat towards Harawah which is situated 70 km east of Sirte before advancing for 50 km from the west to announce also that they had reached the outskirts of Brak al-Shati which is only 70 km from Sabha.

Source: Al-Sharq al-Awsat website, London, in Arabic 14 Sep 11

BBC Mon ME1 MEPol vs

On 9/12/2011 1:51 PM, James F. Smith wrote:

No, mainly tac ground training and psd for key figures.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2011, at 14:28, "Fred Burton" > wrote:

Tactical and intel support too?

On 9/12/2011 10:49 AM, James F. Smith wrote:

Certainly are. They need it. At the request of a usg committee and the rebs. Been there since no-fly.


Sent by mobile device


From: Fred Burton

To: James F. Smith

Sent: Mon Sep 12 11:21:44 2011

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Pls fwd to Fred

Interesting. You guys lending the opposition a hand? I would hope so.

On 9/12/2011 9:59 AM, James F. Smith wrote:

I just got back and am heading back either this week or next. Still working logs on travel.


Sent by mobile device


From: Fred Burton

To: James F. Smith

Sent: Mon Sep 12 10:52:34 2011

Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Pls fwd to Fred

Hello James, Very interesting and thorough report. Are you heading into Libya? Thanks, Fred



I tried sending this via Yahoo, but it was kicked back by your servers.

Let me know if you get this. I'm going back to the AO next week.

Any RFI's just let me know.

Yes, we have a stratfor acct under this email address.

James Smith



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